Post by Roddy Mancu$o on Oct 25, 2009 1:53:46 GMT -5
These two conversations explain a lot of my entire week, and there are NO timestamps 
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jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 14h and 25m ago] Hi!
jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 7h and 19m ago] Hi
jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 5h and 26m ago] What happened?
jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 3h and 47m ago] Hi
King Jamesth: hey
jrdoodle33: You never used your power
King Jamesth: Yeah I know... I thought I was at 30, but I missed Russ's first hit with the machine gun
jrdoodle33:
King Jamesth: so I didnt get to use it. But it wouldnt have mattered anyways
King Jamesth: Monica/Renny and Chiara were all going for me by that point
jrdoodle33: Yeah
King Jamesth: I am still annoyed with myself though
jrdoodle33:
King Jamesth: I have a strong feeling that we will be the two people nominated :/
King Jamesth: but I am hoping that Chima is
King Jamesth: due to inactivity
jrdoodle33: I feel like we'll be up too
King Jamesth: well... I hate saying this but if we are put up on the block together I think it is you that needs to get vetoed
King Jamesth: I think I could survive against most people
jrdoodle33: Yeah people would want me out hardcore
King Jamesth: lol how funny would it be if I got veto and then threw everyone for a loop by using it on you?
King Jamesth: (like if I was already on the block I mean)
jrdoodle33: that would be funny but I wouldn't expect you to do it hehe
King Jamesth: lol, well I think it is unlikely I would in that scenario. But I mean, maybe to create some controversy. I could just see it making people so mad lol
jrdoodle33: Yeah I wouldn't want you to do that though
King Jamesth: well, I am praying that she decides to nominate you against a Chima. That would be very nice.
jrdoodle33: Yeah that would be a great thing to do
jrdoodle33: I still think I would leave
King Jamesth: it would be a very long shor
King Jamesth: *sghot
King Jamesth: ugh
King Jamesth: but it might be possible
jrdoodle33: I doubt it buddy
King Jamesth: well Im not trying to say its likely. But you need five votes. Against Chima it is possible. The four of us who are alligned, plus we bring in James
King Jamesth: and I think I could pull in James personally
King Jamesth: Holly
King Jamesth: she fucked over their team's number advantage
jrdoodle33: I know! I was so happy to see her quit.
King Jamesth: well the one good thing I got out of that mystery box might have been some good will from James
jrdoodle33: What do you mean?
King Jamesth: well I was still online after I died in the game
King Jamesth: and I realized that maybe someone could still claim that box
King Jamesth: so I told James to pick it and what was inside
King Jamesth: not knowing that he had already picked a box
jrdoodle33: That could actually help us
King Jamesth: yeah I am hoping
King Jamesth: I think we might have ruled out James a bit early
King Jamesth: Plus you can't nominate him
King Jamesth: so what would his motivation be to evict you
King Jamesth: so you wanna hear something funny? When I signed on to AIM for the challenge last night, Holly was all 'Hit Jeff's division' First. And then I was like "Uhhh no' and hit Monica. And then Holly quit.
King Jamesth: so in my own little world
King Jamesth: I feel like I pushed her over the edge
jrdoodle33: that's hilarious she's a nutjob
King Jamesth: Ugh I just want to see these nominations already
jrdoodle33 is available (3:42:13 PM)
King Jamesth: hey
jrdoodle33: Hey, sorry to see you nominated
King Jamesth: yeah bummer... I definitely expected it thouth. I knew Renny was gonna target me.
jrdoodle33: I don't know why I am not up
King Jamesth: I thought it would be beside you though
King Jamesth: yea lol
King Jamesth: maybe because you vetoed her
jrdoodle33: Yeah probably
King Jamesth: I think Renny's speech was lame
King Jamesth: she kinda bitches about the fact that Libra was inactive and might have stayed, but then doesn't nominate Chima, who didn't write a confessional last week.
jrdoodle33: Yeah you shoudl mention that, good point
jrdoodle33: should
jrdoodle33 is available (10:07:07 PM)
jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 25m ago] Hi Roddy
jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 9m ago] You not there?
King Jamesth: Im here now
King Jamesth: just got in from work
jrdoodle33: I need to help you win
jrdoodle33: Work on the last two
King Jamesth: ok
King Jamesth: ok done those two
jrdoodle33: I need help with a few things
jrdoodle33: but I already swore on my daughters life to Jessie that I'll vote Marcellas out.
King Jamesth: ok
jrdoodle33: should daughters be daughter's
jrdoodle33: or daughters'
King Jamesth: the first
jrdoodle33: daughter's?
King Jamesth: yes
King Jamesth: the only time you put the apostraphy after is if the word ends in an s
King Jamesth: so like families'
jrdoodle33: Marcellas: I won the Veto! Don't I look cute with the necklace on?
jrdoodle33: Is that right?
jrdoodle33: or no apostrophe
King Jamesth: in don't?
King Jamesth: you are right
jrdoodle33: Okay and I need to check a few more things then I'm done
King Jamesth: ok
jrdoodle33: Last week, Kent tried to get me out but he PAID the price for it. Maggie, and Natalie, also want me out.
jrdoodle33: would it be paid or payed? I think paid
King Jamesth: paid
jrdoodle33: Alright now we just need to put the commas in
King Jamesth: ok...
(and it continued on and on from here with the two of us double triple and quadruple checking.
jrdoodle33: You there?
King Jamesth: yes
King Jamesth: whatsup?
jrdoodle33: Results are up..
jrdoodle33: Jordan beat me
King Jamesth: Damn I thought it was gonna run 24 hours.
jrdoodle33: Go look at what she did with it
King Jamesth: lol you liar
King Jamesth:
jrdoodle33:
jrdoodle33: Welcome off the block buddy!
King Jamesth: thanks!!!
jrdoodle33: You're welcome!
King Jamesth: Man you had my heart racing there for a second. I was just like... how?
jrdoodle33: Yeah I wanted to do that, hehe.
jrdoodle33: Jordan is like trying to get me to use it on her
jrdoodle33: I won't though so don't worry
King Jamesth: ok cool I am gonna act like I am a little worried
King Jamesth: until it is posted
King Jamesth: but I am not actually
King Jamesth: lol so that puts you at 4/6 comp wins so far! lmao
King Jamesth: I am super glad you won this veto though.
jrdoodle33: that is quite a lot
jrdoodle33: I know you won't come after me no matter how many I win though
King Jamesth: exactly. And I think that eliminating Alex was hugely beneficial for us. He wouldnt have missed this comp the way Renny did
jrdoodle33: Posted it
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jrdoodle33: I'm on invisble now
King Jamesth: alright cool, thanks so much! I am so glad I have someone I can count on 100% in this game
jrdoodle33: Same with me, it makes me real happy!
King Jamesth: who do you think Renny will nominte beside Jordan?
jrdoodle33: Probably Kevo
jrdoodle33: We could make Russell go up and somehow get rid of him
King Jamesth: I dont see that happening
King Jamesth: I doubt Renny would nominate Russ just yet
King Jamesth: but then again, she surprised me with her previous nominations
King Jamesth: anyways, I think I would lean towards keeping Jordan in most situations I can think of. I dont know if you feel the same way or not, but I think she will be a valuble ally if we can get her through this week.
jrdoodle33: Yeah I think we need to keep her just need to make sure someone like Russell goes up
King Jamesth: I don't even know where to start with accomplishing that... do you have a working relationship with Renny? Because I clearly don't.
jrdoodle33: I think I could try and work something out, we could try and go with her and tell her we would like to work with her
jrdoodle33: She feels alone
King Jamesth: ummmm, I would probably not nominate her if I got HoH
King Jamesth: I dont think Russ is a threat though
King Jamesth: he kinda sucks at challenges IMO
jrdoodle33: I still think we should go with her and ask if she would like to work with us and we could make up a lie about someone and get them nominated
jrdoodle33: I'm up for it if you are
King Jamesth: maybe we could get James nominated
jrdoodle33: I think Lydia would be best for us
King Jamesth: Lydia makes me nervous because of the fact that she could stay over Jordan
King Jamesth: actually
King Jamesth: do we have Chima for sure?
King Jamesth: because that is what worries me. I think Chima is the deciding vote in that situation
jrdoodle33: I know we have Chima and Lydia hasn't been on
King Jamesth: and Chima also has no relationship with Jordan if I am remembering things correctly
jrdoodle33: Chima has been our sheep
jrdoodle33: She has voted with us each week
jrdoodle33: Lets think about the votes we have
King Jamesth: I think we have four solid
King Jamesth: And Lyd has three solid
jrdoodle33: Chima I know we have too
jrdoodle33: If we could get Lydia/Russell/James up then we can flip this whole game around
King Jamesth: Well I totally agree. I have no idea how to approach it though, because her and I have like no working relationship
King Jamesth: any suggestions?
jrdoodle33: Well we could say that we feel everyone is against us and we know people have been spreading lies about the three of us and we think it'd be best if we work together and run this game
jrdoodle33: We could make up a lie Lydia has said about Renny
jrdoodle33: Lydia helped me in the veto, we could tell her that
jrdoodle33: She actually did
King Jamesth: in these situations, I think lies are alright to use, but I prefer to use hal truths honestly
King Jamesth: much harder to catch
jrdoodle33: If we don't lie then we're not going to get anything done
King Jamesth: we might not have to
jrdoodle33: We can start off with the truth that Lydia helped me to get veto done last week on the last one so the nominations would stay the same
King Jamesth: yeah, and i am not opposed to lying
jrdoodle33: See if she takes the bait
King Jamesth: yeah thats true
King Jamesth: I am gonna look through my IM logs
jrdoodle33: Same with me, we're a perfect duo
jrdoodle33: I think we should PM her something, you're extremely good with your messages.. could you write something to Renny or I could send it if you can write it. You write in depth and it helps swaying people
King Jamesth: ok, I'll give it a go
jrdoodle33: Do you want me to list things we should put in it?
jrdoodle33: 1. We feel alone, and everyone in this house has talked down about us.
jrdoodle33: 2. We've all been targeted.
jrdoodle33: 3. Lydia has backstabbed us all and lied to every single one of us, she helped me with the veto last week securing the nominees.
jrdoodle33: Sound good?
King Jamesth: ok,well I will write something up and tell me what you think
jrdoodle33: 1 including Renny too
jrdoodle33: Sounds great to me
King Jamesth: I will message it pretty soon hopefully
jrdoodle33: Message me here when you send it, then I'll read over it
King Jamesth: ok
jrdoodle33: How is it going?
King Jamesth: ummm, I am part way through... it is tough
King Jamesth: but I think it is going decently
jrdoodle33: Yeah I bet, no worries bud. Take your time
King Jamesth: ok I am almost done
King Jamesth: I think it is pretty good
jrdoodle33:
jrdoodle33: Is it written as from my point of view or yours?
King Jamesth: ummm, well it is from yours, but I could change it if you want. I just think you have a lot more leverage to work with than me
jrdoodle33: Yeah I'll work with it
King Jamesth: because you have the challenge wins to backup your name
jrdoodle33: That is true
jrdoodle33: You're a great friend and partner to work with so thanks
jrdoodle33: Almost there?
King Jamesth: Im just looking it over
King Jamesth: Ill send it over
jrdoodle33:
King Jamesth: Hey Renny,
I am just messaging you right now because I know that you have a big decision on your hands. I know that you and I have had our differences so far in the game, but I hope you can take this seriously. Clearly we are playing characters that clash, but I am writing to you because I think that we are in a pretty similar predicament strategically.
King Jamesth: Something just feels kind of off about how things are developing in this game. It seems like there are certain people who are actually playing the game (i.e. you and I) but that a lot of players have been sitting in the background afraid to really make bold moves.
The thing is, players that are really getting into the game are now sticking out a lot more. You and I both have a lot of people after us, and people have jumped to conclusions on us entirely. But I think that if we work together we might have a shot at overcoming the odds. Clearly both of us have the ability to pull out a challenge win – a skill which literally every other person still in the competition has failed to do.
King Jamesth: Sure, I am the target now. But who will take my position of public enemy number one after I leave? Unfortunately, with most of these players I think that they will go for the threats in the next period of time, and you would probably be included on that list.
So basically what I am concerned about is the dull players mobilizing. I think that we can entirely ensure that it does not happen, but only if we act wisely over the next few weeks.
King Jamesth: Personally I think that it is a lot less likely to happen without strong social players in the game. Now, I will admit that it going after a social threat requires you to make bold nominations – but it also has huge payoffs down the line if it succeeds. In addition, you would be ensuring that you are not nominated if I win an HoH. And I could get Roddy to commit to that deal too because I just used the veto on him and he has acknowledged to me that he owes me right now.
King Jamesth: If you are looking for the best social game in the house, it’s clearly Lydia. She knows exactly how to make people want to keep her in the game, I mean hell she stayed over Alex 8-3, and Alex would have been a huge asset to people like Chiara and Russell because he could win challenges. And just as important is the fact that she is very smart – she helped me during the Week 2 veto by sending me the answer to the cryptograms. At the time I didn’t know why, but in hindsight it was clearly because she did not want the veto to be used because that is what everyone thought I would do at the time. She knew that one of her girl alliance would have ended up on the block, so she planned ahead. Unfortunately for her I caught on to what happened.
King Jamesth: She also clearly has Russ wrapped around her finger if he broke his word to Alex and voted him off after promising he would campaign to keep him. And Chiara has been with her since day 1.
King Jamesth: But there are some people who are nervous about people who are nervous about her right now, and the numbers are definitely possible. Message me back your thoughts, but I know for sure that we could get five votes.
King Jamesth: and thats it
jrdoodle33: Wow let me read this over, so long
jrdoodle33: Nice work
King Jamesth: yeah its about a page on microsoft word
jrdoodle33: WOW it's amazing I just don't get this line
jrdoodle33: But there are some people who are nervous about people who are nervous about her right now,
King Jamesth: well, the thing is we are building Lydia as a big social threat, and they are tough to send home
King Jamesth: so I added that in to make her think maybe that we could get support from people who are nervous about her as a social threat
King Jamesth: but I dont know
jrdoodle33: No like i like it but would this make more sense:
jrdoodle33: But there are some people who are nervous about her right now,
King Jamesth: ohhhh
King Jamesth: I see what you mean
King Jamesth: lol I didnt see that, yeah that is a typo basically
King Jamesth: you know how sometimes when you read your own reading you just see what you think your wrote?
King Jamesth: *read your own writing
jrdoodle33: Yeah I understand, I do that all the time. This is amazing though Roddy.
King Jamesth: thanks
King Jamesth: I think it could work
jrdoodle33: What should I title the message
jrdoodle33: I think it could work too
King Jamesth: Ummm, one more thing
King Jamesth: jus because I am a perfectionist
jrdoodle33: Okay
King Jamesth: If you are looking for the best social game in the house, it’s clearly Lydia. She knows exactly how to make people want to keep her in the game, I mean hell she stayed over Alex 8-3, and Alex would have been a huge asset to people like Chiara and Russell because he could win challenges. And just as important is the fact that she is very smart – she helped me during the Week 2 veto by sending me the answer to some of the cryptograms. At the time I didn’t know why, but in hindsight it was clearly because she did not want the veto to be used because that is what everyone thought I would do at the time. She knew that one of her girl alliance would have ended up on the block, so she planned ahead. Unfortunately for her I caught on to what happened.
King Jamesth: that is the corrected paragraph. I put in the words, some of
jrdoodle33: Renny is on now so we need to send this now
King Jamesth: ok, its good to go
King Jamesth: maybe title it something like 'regarding your veto replacement...'
jrdoodle33: Sent
King Jamesth: ok
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: You there?
Jrdoodle33: Hi Renny I just sent you a message
“Renny”: on the board?
Jrdoodle33: Yes
King Jamesth: lol maybe that is how I will help us. By writing persuasive essays to HoH's
jrdoodle33:
jrdoodle33: You're amazing at it
King Jamesth: ok so my favorite part is this part
King Jamesth: And just as important is the fact that she is very smart – she helped me during the Week 2 veto by sending me the answer to some of the cryptograms. At the time I didn’t know why, but in hindsight it was clearly because she did not want the veto to be used because that is what everyone thought I would do at the time. She knew that one of her girl alliance would have ended up on the block, so she planned ahead. Unfortunately for her I caught on to what happened.
King Jamesth: that part doesn't explictly say that "Renny they were gonna vote you out"
King Jamesth: but it might as well
jrdoodle33: I love that part too because it shows she cared about her alliance not Renny and exactly.
King Jamesth: but she will feel like she figured it out on her own when she reads it
jrdoodle33: How are you so good at writing?
King Jamesth: lol I am a philosophy major. Last year I had to write essays on the most confusing subject in the history of the planet. Mental causation.
King Jamesth: So things with tangible aspects
jrdoodle33: What is that?
King Jamesth: like votes
King Jamesth: ummmm, well its kinda hard to explain, but you know how in science every physical reaction is almost predetermined?
King Jamesth: like, there are laws
jrdoodle33: Wow you're impressive. Seriously, this would never be easy for me and she just got done reading. Yeah, like in chemistry.
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: I'm a little surprised you used the power of veto
jrdoodle33: What should I say?
King Jamesth: Ummm, say that you feel like you have a bit of a decent relationship with me
King Jamesth: and didnt want to lose the only potential person
King Jamesth: they were already coming after me anyways at HoH so they know about us to some degree regardless
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: but like you taking out alex, I kind of wanted to do the same thing with roddy cause I feel like he hasn't given me a chance in this game
King Jamesth: lol its true I havent
King Jamesth: but I am willing to
King Jamesth: I just kinda didnt feel like I connected with her t first
King Jamesth: omg I KNEW I was the target
King Jamesth: I just knew it
jrdoodle33: Jrdoodle33: What I did to Alex I couldn't have changed because I already nominated before I caught Lydia in her little lies. I had to pick one person to pretty much keep in the game and I decided it was going to be you, I feel closer to you. I like you, I feel we're now on the same page.
jrdoodle33: Jrdoodle33: Roddy likes you, he has never said one negative thing about you to me.
King Jamesth: no dont go that way
King Jamesth: I am willing to talk to her
King Jamesth: you dont need to lie, she wont believe that
King Jamesth: I will tell her flat out what my concern was before, and why I was kinda after her. I think that would be easier than trying to convince her I was never after her at all.
King Jamesth: I will admit I was in the wrong
jrdoodle33: okay
King Jamesth: but tell her to talk to me
King Jamesth: I dont wanna message her
jrdoodle33: I swear if we pull this off
King Jamesth: yeah this could be epic
jrdoodle33: Best duo ever? (me and you)
jrdoodle33: How could I ask her if she would work with us?
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: well I don't know who I am going to put up next to jordan
jrdoodle33: How can we tell her Lydia duh
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: and I really don't think Roddy likes me
Jrdoodle33: I want the best for you, and I feel after today we're cool with each other right? Like you're not someone I would nominate if I win HoH.
jrdoodle33: Jrdoodle33: You should message him and talk to him.
“Renny”: I probably won't tonight
King Jamesth: Ummm, see if you can mention in the conversation that Chiara can't target her
King Jamesth: and that would be her biggest risk if Lydia leaves
jrdoodle33: I think it's best for you to message her
jrdoodle33: Message her on the board and ask if you can speak to her though
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: I have a lot to think about
“Renny”: but right now I am just not feeling the lydia nomination
King Jamesth: do you think me messaging her will make the difference?
King Jamesth: I think I might be able to sell her on it tomorrow
jrdoodle33: Yeah a huge difference
King Jamesth: once she has slept on it
King Jamesth: ok
jrdoodle33: We need to get this into her head now though
King Jamesth: ok I sent her a message
King Jamesth: it was brief
jrdoodle33: she's off now
King Jamesth: shit
King Jamesth: did she say she was going to bed?
jrdoodle33: She's on here
jrdoodle33: Not on the boar
jrdoodle33: d
King Jamesth: She is on invisible right now
jrdoodle33: Maybe message her, "You there? I saw you on the board but you just signed off, thought I would try before I headed to bed."
King Jamesth: alright I'll give it a go
jrdoodle33: Any response?
King Jamesth: a little
jrdoodle33: “Lydia”: (9:46:31 PM)If I won HoH next week, I would put up most likely Kevin [since i havnt talked to him and he did really well in this challenge] and then i would nominate most likely renny. because i havnt talked to her much either. Those two are the least i have connected with.
jrdoodle33: I found that
jrdoodle33: Did she stop talking?
King Jamesth: no we are still talking
jrdoodle33: How is it going? Update, me.
King Jamesth: ummm, well I am making progress, but its not gonna happen tonight
jrdoodle33: What do you mean
King Jamesth: she is going to bed because she feels sick
King Jamesth: we can't seal the deal with Lydia
King Jamesth: but I made progress with her, and we said we would talk tomorrow
jrdoodle33: We're going to have to wait tomorrow? Awesome, what was she saying to you though?
King Jamesth: well ultimately, nothing that great. But the potential is there
King Jamesth: I think the good thing is that she knew I was being honest with her
King Jamesth: and she did admit to feeling alone before she left (and stated that she would want to talk tomorrow)
jrdoodle33: That's good to know, but do you think this could help us:
jrdoodle33: “Lydia”: (9:46:31 PM)If I won HoH next week, I would put up most likely Kevin [since i havnt talked to him and he did really well in this challenge] and then i would nominate most likely renny. because i havnt talked to her much either. Those two are the least i have connected with.
jrdoodle33: She mentions wanting Renny nominated
King Jamesth: ummm, possibly. But it could be unnecessary.
King Jamesth: you know what I mean?
King Jamesth: we are only gonna know tomorrow though
jrdoodle33: Yeah that is true, what times will you be on tomorrow
King Jamesth: ummmm, I'll kinda be around all day, because I'll be at home getting readings. But at some point (prolly like 7PM) I have a group study session.
King Jamesth: anyways, hopefully I will be around before the veto replacement goes up
King Jamesth: u?
jrdoodle33: I will try and be on probably 3PM tomorrow
King Jamesth: ok well I will keep an eye out for Renny tomorrow
jrdoodle33: that would be awesome, we need to make sure she goes through with this plan
. jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 14h and 25m ago] Hi!
jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 7h and 19m ago] Hi
jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 5h and 26m ago] What happened?
jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 3h and 47m ago] Hi
King Jamesth: hey
jrdoodle33: You never used your power
King Jamesth: Yeah I know... I thought I was at 30, but I missed Russ's first hit with the machine gun
jrdoodle33:
King Jamesth: so I didnt get to use it. But it wouldnt have mattered anyways
King Jamesth: Monica/Renny and Chiara were all going for me by that point
jrdoodle33: Yeah
King Jamesth: I am still annoyed with myself though
jrdoodle33:
King Jamesth: I have a strong feeling that we will be the two people nominated :/
King Jamesth: but I am hoping that Chima is
King Jamesth: due to inactivity
jrdoodle33: I feel like we'll be up too
King Jamesth: well... I hate saying this but if we are put up on the block together I think it is you that needs to get vetoed
King Jamesth: I think I could survive against most people
jrdoodle33: Yeah people would want me out hardcore
King Jamesth: lol how funny would it be if I got veto and then threw everyone for a loop by using it on you?
King Jamesth: (like if I was already on the block I mean)
jrdoodle33: that would be funny but I wouldn't expect you to do it hehe
King Jamesth: lol, well I think it is unlikely I would in that scenario. But I mean, maybe to create some controversy. I could just see it making people so mad lol
jrdoodle33: Yeah I wouldn't want you to do that though
King Jamesth: well, I am praying that she decides to nominate you against a Chima. That would be very nice.
jrdoodle33: Yeah that would be a great thing to do
jrdoodle33: I still think I would leave
King Jamesth: it would be a very long shor
King Jamesth: *sghot
King Jamesth: ugh
King Jamesth: but it might be possible
jrdoodle33: I doubt it buddy
King Jamesth: well Im not trying to say its likely. But you need five votes. Against Chima it is possible. The four of us who are alligned, plus we bring in James
King Jamesth: and I think I could pull in James personally
King Jamesth: Holly
King Jamesth: she fucked over their team's number advantage
jrdoodle33: I know! I was so happy to see her quit.
King Jamesth: well the one good thing I got out of that mystery box might have been some good will from James
jrdoodle33: What do you mean?
King Jamesth: well I was still online after I died in the game
King Jamesth: and I realized that maybe someone could still claim that box
King Jamesth: so I told James to pick it and what was inside
King Jamesth: not knowing that he had already picked a box
jrdoodle33: That could actually help us
King Jamesth: yeah I am hoping
King Jamesth: I think we might have ruled out James a bit early
King Jamesth: Plus you can't nominate him
King Jamesth: so what would his motivation be to evict you
King Jamesth: so you wanna hear something funny? When I signed on to AIM for the challenge last night, Holly was all 'Hit Jeff's division' First. And then I was like "Uhhh no' and hit Monica. And then Holly quit.
King Jamesth: so in my own little world
King Jamesth: I feel like I pushed her over the edge
jrdoodle33: that's hilarious she's a nutjob
King Jamesth: Ugh I just want to see these nominations already
jrdoodle33 is available (3:42:13 PM)
King Jamesth: hey
jrdoodle33: Hey, sorry to see you nominated
King Jamesth: yeah bummer... I definitely expected it thouth. I knew Renny was gonna target me.
jrdoodle33: I don't know why I am not up
King Jamesth: I thought it would be beside you though
King Jamesth: yea lol
King Jamesth: maybe because you vetoed her
jrdoodle33: Yeah probably
King Jamesth: I think Renny's speech was lame
King Jamesth: she kinda bitches about the fact that Libra was inactive and might have stayed, but then doesn't nominate Chima, who didn't write a confessional last week.
jrdoodle33: Yeah you shoudl mention that, good point
jrdoodle33: should
jrdoodle33 is available (10:07:07 PM)
jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 25m ago] Hi Roddy
jrdoodle33:[Offline IM sent 9m ago] You not there?
King Jamesth: Im here now
King Jamesth: just got in from work
jrdoodle33: I need to help you win
jrdoodle33: Work on the last two
King Jamesth: ok
King Jamesth: ok done those two
jrdoodle33: I need help with a few things
jrdoodle33: but I already swore on my daughters life to Jessie that I'll vote Marcellas out.
King Jamesth: ok
jrdoodle33: should daughters be daughter's
jrdoodle33: or daughters'
King Jamesth: the first
jrdoodle33: daughter's?
King Jamesth: yes
King Jamesth: the only time you put the apostraphy after is if the word ends in an s
King Jamesth: so like families'
jrdoodle33: Marcellas: I won the Veto! Don't I look cute with the necklace on?
jrdoodle33: Is that right?
jrdoodle33: or no apostrophe
King Jamesth: in don't?
King Jamesth: you are right
jrdoodle33: Okay and I need to check a few more things then I'm done
King Jamesth: ok
jrdoodle33: Last week, Kent tried to get me out but he PAID the price for it. Maggie, and Natalie, also want me out.
jrdoodle33: would it be paid or payed? I think paid
King Jamesth: paid
jrdoodle33: Alright now we just need to put the commas in
King Jamesth: ok...
(and it continued on and on from here with the two of us double triple and quadruple checking.
jrdoodle33: You there?
King Jamesth: yes
King Jamesth: whatsup?
jrdoodle33: Results are up..
jrdoodle33: Jordan beat me
King Jamesth: Damn I thought it was gonna run 24 hours.
jrdoodle33: Go look at what she did with it
King Jamesth: lol you liar
King Jamesth:
jrdoodle33:
jrdoodle33: Welcome off the block buddy!
King Jamesth: thanks!!!
jrdoodle33: You're welcome!
King Jamesth: Man you had my heart racing there for a second. I was just like... how?
jrdoodle33: Yeah I wanted to do that, hehe.
jrdoodle33: Jordan is like trying to get me to use it on her
jrdoodle33: I won't though so don't worry
King Jamesth: ok cool I am gonna act like I am a little worried
King Jamesth: until it is posted
King Jamesth: but I am not actually
King Jamesth: lol so that puts you at 4/6 comp wins so far! lmao
King Jamesth: I am super glad you won this veto though.
jrdoodle33: that is quite a lot
jrdoodle33: I know you won't come after me no matter how many I win though
King Jamesth: exactly. And I think that eliminating Alex was hugely beneficial for us. He wouldnt have missed this comp the way Renny did
jrdoodle33: Posted it
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jrdoodle33: I'm on invisble now
King Jamesth: alright cool, thanks so much! I am so glad I have someone I can count on 100% in this game
jrdoodle33: Same with me, it makes me real happy!
King Jamesth: who do you think Renny will nominte beside Jordan?
jrdoodle33: Probably Kevo
jrdoodle33: We could make Russell go up and somehow get rid of him
King Jamesth: I dont see that happening
King Jamesth: I doubt Renny would nominate Russ just yet
King Jamesth: but then again, she surprised me with her previous nominations
King Jamesth: anyways, I think I would lean towards keeping Jordan in most situations I can think of. I dont know if you feel the same way or not, but I think she will be a valuble ally if we can get her through this week.
jrdoodle33: Yeah I think we need to keep her just need to make sure someone like Russell goes up
King Jamesth: I don't even know where to start with accomplishing that... do you have a working relationship with Renny? Because I clearly don't.
jrdoodle33: I think I could try and work something out, we could try and go with her and tell her we would like to work with her
jrdoodle33: She feels alone
King Jamesth: ummmm, I would probably not nominate her if I got HoH
King Jamesth: I dont think Russ is a threat though
King Jamesth: he kinda sucks at challenges IMO
jrdoodle33: I still think we should go with her and ask if she would like to work with us and we could make up a lie about someone and get them nominated
jrdoodle33: I'm up for it if you are
King Jamesth: maybe we could get James nominated
jrdoodle33: I think Lydia would be best for us
King Jamesth: Lydia makes me nervous because of the fact that she could stay over Jordan
King Jamesth: actually
King Jamesth: do we have Chima for sure?
King Jamesth: because that is what worries me. I think Chima is the deciding vote in that situation
jrdoodle33: I know we have Chima and Lydia hasn't been on
King Jamesth: and Chima also has no relationship with Jordan if I am remembering things correctly
jrdoodle33: Chima has been our sheep
jrdoodle33: She has voted with us each week
jrdoodle33: Lets think about the votes we have
King Jamesth: I think we have four solid
King Jamesth: And Lyd has three solid
jrdoodle33: Chima I know we have too
jrdoodle33: If we could get Lydia/Russell/James up then we can flip this whole game around
King Jamesth: Well I totally agree. I have no idea how to approach it though, because her and I have like no working relationship
King Jamesth: any suggestions?
jrdoodle33: Well we could say that we feel everyone is against us and we know people have been spreading lies about the three of us and we think it'd be best if we work together and run this game
jrdoodle33: We could make up a lie Lydia has said about Renny
jrdoodle33: Lydia helped me in the veto, we could tell her that
jrdoodle33: She actually did
King Jamesth: in these situations, I think lies are alright to use, but I prefer to use hal truths honestly
King Jamesth: much harder to catch
jrdoodle33: If we don't lie then we're not going to get anything done
King Jamesth: we might not have to
jrdoodle33: We can start off with the truth that Lydia helped me to get veto done last week on the last one so the nominations would stay the same
King Jamesth: yeah, and i am not opposed to lying
jrdoodle33: See if she takes the bait
King Jamesth: yeah thats true
King Jamesth: I am gonna look through my IM logs
jrdoodle33: Same with me, we're a perfect duo
jrdoodle33: I think we should PM her something, you're extremely good with your messages.. could you write something to Renny or I could send it if you can write it. You write in depth and it helps swaying people
King Jamesth: ok, I'll give it a go
jrdoodle33: Do you want me to list things we should put in it?
jrdoodle33: 1. We feel alone, and everyone in this house has talked down about us.
jrdoodle33: 2. We've all been targeted.
jrdoodle33: 3. Lydia has backstabbed us all and lied to every single one of us, she helped me with the veto last week securing the nominees.
jrdoodle33: Sound good?
King Jamesth: ok,well I will write something up and tell me what you think
jrdoodle33: 1 including Renny too
jrdoodle33: Sounds great to me
King Jamesth: I will message it pretty soon hopefully
jrdoodle33: Message me here when you send it, then I'll read over it
King Jamesth: ok
jrdoodle33: How is it going?
King Jamesth: ummm, I am part way through... it is tough
King Jamesth: but I think it is going decently
jrdoodle33: Yeah I bet, no worries bud. Take your time
King Jamesth: ok I am almost done
King Jamesth: I think it is pretty good
jrdoodle33:
jrdoodle33: Is it written as from my point of view or yours?
King Jamesth: ummm, well it is from yours, but I could change it if you want. I just think you have a lot more leverage to work with than me
jrdoodle33: Yeah I'll work with it
King Jamesth: because you have the challenge wins to backup your name
jrdoodle33: That is true
jrdoodle33: You're a great friend and partner to work with so thanks
jrdoodle33: Almost there?
King Jamesth: Im just looking it over
King Jamesth: Ill send it over
jrdoodle33:
King Jamesth: Hey Renny,
I am just messaging you right now because I know that you have a big decision on your hands. I know that you and I have had our differences so far in the game, but I hope you can take this seriously. Clearly we are playing characters that clash, but I am writing to you because I think that we are in a pretty similar predicament strategically.
King Jamesth: Something just feels kind of off about how things are developing in this game. It seems like there are certain people who are actually playing the game (i.e. you and I) but that a lot of players have been sitting in the background afraid to really make bold moves.
The thing is, players that are really getting into the game are now sticking out a lot more. You and I both have a lot of people after us, and people have jumped to conclusions on us entirely. But I think that if we work together we might have a shot at overcoming the odds. Clearly both of us have the ability to pull out a challenge win – a skill which literally every other person still in the competition has failed to do.
King Jamesth: Sure, I am the target now. But who will take my position of public enemy number one after I leave? Unfortunately, with most of these players I think that they will go for the threats in the next period of time, and you would probably be included on that list.
So basically what I am concerned about is the dull players mobilizing. I think that we can entirely ensure that it does not happen, but only if we act wisely over the next few weeks.
King Jamesth: Personally I think that it is a lot less likely to happen without strong social players in the game. Now, I will admit that it going after a social threat requires you to make bold nominations – but it also has huge payoffs down the line if it succeeds. In addition, you would be ensuring that you are not nominated if I win an HoH. And I could get Roddy to commit to that deal too because I just used the veto on him and he has acknowledged to me that he owes me right now.
King Jamesth: If you are looking for the best social game in the house, it’s clearly Lydia. She knows exactly how to make people want to keep her in the game, I mean hell she stayed over Alex 8-3, and Alex would have been a huge asset to people like Chiara and Russell because he could win challenges. And just as important is the fact that she is very smart – she helped me during the Week 2 veto by sending me the answer to the cryptograms. At the time I didn’t know why, but in hindsight it was clearly because she did not want the veto to be used because that is what everyone thought I would do at the time. She knew that one of her girl alliance would have ended up on the block, so she planned ahead. Unfortunately for her I caught on to what happened.
King Jamesth: She also clearly has Russ wrapped around her finger if he broke his word to Alex and voted him off after promising he would campaign to keep him. And Chiara has been with her since day 1.
King Jamesth: But there are some people who are nervous about people who are nervous about her right now, and the numbers are definitely possible. Message me back your thoughts, but I know for sure that we could get five votes.
King Jamesth: and thats it
jrdoodle33: Wow let me read this over, so long
jrdoodle33: Nice work
King Jamesth: yeah its about a page on microsoft word
jrdoodle33: WOW it's amazing I just don't get this line
jrdoodle33: But there are some people who are nervous about people who are nervous about her right now,
King Jamesth: well, the thing is we are building Lydia as a big social threat, and they are tough to send home
King Jamesth: so I added that in to make her think maybe that we could get support from people who are nervous about her as a social threat
King Jamesth: but I dont know
jrdoodle33: No like i like it but would this make more sense:
jrdoodle33: But there are some people who are nervous about her right now,
King Jamesth: ohhhh
King Jamesth: I see what you mean
King Jamesth: lol I didnt see that, yeah that is a typo basically
King Jamesth: you know how sometimes when you read your own reading you just see what you think your wrote?
King Jamesth: *read your own writing
jrdoodle33: Yeah I understand, I do that all the time. This is amazing though Roddy.
King Jamesth: thanks
King Jamesth: I think it could work
jrdoodle33: What should I title the message
jrdoodle33: I think it could work too
King Jamesth: Ummm, one more thing
King Jamesth: jus because I am a perfectionist
jrdoodle33: Okay
King Jamesth: If you are looking for the best social game in the house, it’s clearly Lydia. She knows exactly how to make people want to keep her in the game, I mean hell she stayed over Alex 8-3, and Alex would have been a huge asset to people like Chiara and Russell because he could win challenges. And just as important is the fact that she is very smart – she helped me during the Week 2 veto by sending me the answer to some of the cryptograms. At the time I didn’t know why, but in hindsight it was clearly because she did not want the veto to be used because that is what everyone thought I would do at the time. She knew that one of her girl alliance would have ended up on the block, so she planned ahead. Unfortunately for her I caught on to what happened.
King Jamesth: that is the corrected paragraph. I put in the words, some of
jrdoodle33: Renny is on now so we need to send this now
King Jamesth: ok, its good to go
King Jamesth: maybe title it something like 'regarding your veto replacement...'
jrdoodle33: Sent
King Jamesth: ok
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: You there?
Jrdoodle33: Hi Renny I just sent you a message
“Renny”: on the board?
Jrdoodle33: Yes
King Jamesth: lol maybe that is how I will help us. By writing persuasive essays to HoH's
jrdoodle33:
jrdoodle33: You're amazing at it
King Jamesth: ok so my favorite part is this part
King Jamesth: And just as important is the fact that she is very smart – she helped me during the Week 2 veto by sending me the answer to some of the cryptograms. At the time I didn’t know why, but in hindsight it was clearly because she did not want the veto to be used because that is what everyone thought I would do at the time. She knew that one of her girl alliance would have ended up on the block, so she planned ahead. Unfortunately for her I caught on to what happened.
King Jamesth: that part doesn't explictly say that "Renny they were gonna vote you out"
King Jamesth: but it might as well
jrdoodle33: I love that part too because it shows she cared about her alliance not Renny and exactly.
King Jamesth: but she will feel like she figured it out on her own when she reads it
jrdoodle33: How are you so good at writing?
King Jamesth: lol I am a philosophy major. Last year I had to write essays on the most confusing subject in the history of the planet. Mental causation.
King Jamesth: So things with tangible aspects
jrdoodle33: What is that?
King Jamesth: like votes
King Jamesth: ummmm, well its kinda hard to explain, but you know how in science every physical reaction is almost predetermined?
King Jamesth: like, there are laws
jrdoodle33: Wow you're impressive. Seriously, this would never be easy for me and she just got done reading. Yeah, like in chemistry.
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: I'm a little surprised you used the power of veto
jrdoodle33: What should I say?
King Jamesth: Ummm, say that you feel like you have a bit of a decent relationship with me
King Jamesth: and didnt want to lose the only potential person
King Jamesth: they were already coming after me anyways at HoH so they know about us to some degree regardless
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: but like you taking out alex, I kind of wanted to do the same thing with roddy cause I feel like he hasn't given me a chance in this game
King Jamesth: lol its true I havent
King Jamesth: but I am willing to
King Jamesth: I just kinda didnt feel like I connected with her t first
King Jamesth: omg I KNEW I was the target
King Jamesth: I just knew it
jrdoodle33: Jrdoodle33: What I did to Alex I couldn't have changed because I already nominated before I caught Lydia in her little lies. I had to pick one person to pretty much keep in the game and I decided it was going to be you, I feel closer to you. I like you, I feel we're now on the same page.
jrdoodle33: Jrdoodle33: Roddy likes you, he has never said one negative thing about you to me.
King Jamesth: no dont go that way
King Jamesth: I am willing to talk to her
King Jamesth: you dont need to lie, she wont believe that
King Jamesth: I will tell her flat out what my concern was before, and why I was kinda after her. I think that would be easier than trying to convince her I was never after her at all.
King Jamesth: I will admit I was in the wrong
jrdoodle33: okay
King Jamesth: but tell her to talk to me
King Jamesth: I dont wanna message her
jrdoodle33: I swear if we pull this off
King Jamesth: yeah this could be epic
jrdoodle33: Best duo ever? (me and you)
jrdoodle33: How could I ask her if she would work with us?
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: well I don't know who I am going to put up next to jordan
jrdoodle33: How can we tell her Lydia duh
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: and I really don't think Roddy likes me
Jrdoodle33: I want the best for you, and I feel after today we're cool with each other right? Like you're not someone I would nominate if I win HoH.
jrdoodle33: Jrdoodle33: You should message him and talk to him.
“Renny”: I probably won't tonight
King Jamesth: Ummm, see if you can mention in the conversation that Chiara can't target her
King Jamesth: and that would be her biggest risk if Lydia leaves
jrdoodle33: I think it's best for you to message her
jrdoodle33: Message her on the board and ask if you can speak to her though
jrdoodle33: “Renny”: I have a lot to think about
“Renny”: but right now I am just not feeling the lydia nomination
King Jamesth: do you think me messaging her will make the difference?
King Jamesth: I think I might be able to sell her on it tomorrow
jrdoodle33: Yeah a huge difference
King Jamesth: once she has slept on it
King Jamesth: ok
jrdoodle33: We need to get this into her head now though
King Jamesth: ok I sent her a message
King Jamesth: it was brief
jrdoodle33: she's off now
King Jamesth: shit
King Jamesth: did she say she was going to bed?
jrdoodle33: She's on here
jrdoodle33: Not on the boar
jrdoodle33: d
King Jamesth: She is on invisible right now
jrdoodle33: Maybe message her, "You there? I saw you on the board but you just signed off, thought I would try before I headed to bed."
King Jamesth: alright I'll give it a go
jrdoodle33: Any response?
King Jamesth: a little
jrdoodle33: “Lydia”: (9:46:31 PM)If I won HoH next week, I would put up most likely Kevin [since i havnt talked to him and he did really well in this challenge] and then i would nominate most likely renny. because i havnt talked to her much either. Those two are the least i have connected with.
jrdoodle33: I found that
jrdoodle33: Did she stop talking?
King Jamesth: no we are still talking
jrdoodle33: How is it going? Update, me.
King Jamesth: ummm, well I am making progress, but its not gonna happen tonight
jrdoodle33: What do you mean
King Jamesth: she is going to bed because she feels sick
King Jamesth: we can't seal the deal with Lydia
King Jamesth: but I made progress with her, and we said we would talk tomorrow
jrdoodle33: We're going to have to wait tomorrow? Awesome, what was she saying to you though?
King Jamesth: well ultimately, nothing that great. But the potential is there
King Jamesth: I think the good thing is that she knew I was being honest with her
King Jamesth: and she did admit to feeling alone before she left (and stated that she would want to talk tomorrow)
jrdoodle33: That's good to know, but do you think this could help us:
jrdoodle33: “Lydia”: (9:46:31 PM)If I won HoH next week, I would put up most likely Kevin [since i havnt talked to him and he did really well in this challenge] and then i would nominate most likely renny. because i havnt talked to her much either. Those two are the least i have connected with.
jrdoodle33: She mentions wanting Renny nominated
King Jamesth: ummm, possibly. But it could be unnecessary.
King Jamesth: you know what I mean?
King Jamesth: we are only gonna know tomorrow though
jrdoodle33: Yeah that is true, what times will you be on tomorrow
King Jamesth: ummmm, I'll kinda be around all day, because I'll be at home getting readings. But at some point (prolly like 7PM) I have a group study session.
King Jamesth: anyways, hopefully I will be around before the veto replacement goes up
King Jamesth: u?
jrdoodle33: I will try and be on probably 3PM tomorrow
King Jamesth: ok well I will keep an eye out for Renny tomorrow
jrdoodle33: that would be awesome, we need to make sure she goes through with this plan