Week 6 Conversations (I will format these later)

[Roddy Mancu$o]

Jeff and I during HoH

jrdoodle33: i haven't even started the hoh
King Jamesth: lol I did it yesterday
King Jamesth: I havent sent my answers in though
jrdoodle33: how many letters were there?
King Jamesth: 88 I thinkl
jrdoodle33: wow this is going to be hard to space them all out to not get eliminated
King Jamesth: I think I have solid words, but I am nervous that I am somehow going to lose because of the order that people submit their words
King Jamesth: ?
King Jamesth: yeah
jrdoodle33: can people use the same words?
King Jamesth: I don't know, I think so
King Jamesth: but it might factor into a tiebreaker
jrdoodle33: how long is your last word?
King Jamesth: 24 letters
King Jamesth: but obviously only you and I can know that
jrdoodle33: i won't tell anyone
jrdoodle33: that's pretty good
jrdoodle33: did you make all rounds 22 words?
King Jamesth: no
jrdoodle33: oh some letters wouldn't work
King Jamesth: exactly
King Jamesth: after your first word over 20 its like impossible to get another that is also that long
jrdoodle33: that is true
jrdoodle33: how long is your first round so i can try and make it around there
jrdoodle33: 10?
King Jamesth: I somehow managed to get 12
jrdoodle33:
jrdoodle33: that's good
King Jamesth: Yeah, but I am nervous that people will switch around the order of their submissions rather than doing the obvious and starting with your worst word but ending with your best
King Jamesth: the 12 letter word is the only one I am really that concerned about
jrdoodle33: you think they would do that?
King Jamesth: no, but I am an overthinker
King Jamesth: so I get paranoid about that kinda thing
jrdoodle33: yeah it is kinda scary because they could do that so we would be out
King Jamesth: It would require a lot of people working together though
jrdoodle33: in the carpet on the picture it looks like microscopic words are inside lol. yeah that's true
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jrdoodle33: we have to circle them? and thanks!
King Jamesth: no, we dont
King Jamesth: but I wanted to make sure I didnt miss any or double count any
King Jamesth: and the circling helps a lot for that
King Jamesth: if you wnt, I can just tell you the letter count that I got
jrdoodle33: i would appreciate that
King Jamesth: K I am pretty sure about these, but obviously I could have made a mistake
King Jamesth: A5, B3, C4, D2, E11, F2, G2, H1, I7, J1, K2, L5, M1, N2, O5, P3, Q1, R4, S7, T5, U5, V3, W2, X1, Y2, Z2
King Jamesth: The number is the quantity of the letter it is next to
jrdoodle33: i got 91
jrdoodle33: letters
King Jamesth: Hmmm, well like I said, I am not 100% sure, but I have scanned pretty closely
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jrdoodle33: i'll count out the letters now
King Jamesth: are you sure you didn't double count any of those?
jrdoodle33: i covered them up after i counted them
King Jamesth: actually
King Jamesth: I see an 'I' that I missed in the carpet
jrdoodle33: yeah i have 8 i's
King Jamesth: lol, I had an i leftover from my words anyways
jrdoodle33: haha
King Jamesth: do you have any other differenceds in letters from me?
jrdoodle33: i have all the same results as you other than the i and the a so far
jrdoodle33: 13 e's
King Jamesth: man you don't realize it yet... but it sucks SO much only having 1 H
jrdoodle33: why
King Jamesth: needed in SO many long words
jrdoodle33:
King Jamesth: because it is used very frequently after 't' 's' 'p'
jrdoodle33: great, we just need to hope the others suck at this
King Jamesth: even if they dont
King Jamesth: I think I have a very solid chance at winning
jrdoodle33:
King Jamesth: I managed to use 70 of the letters between my four words
jrdoodle33: that's really good
King Jamesth: As long as I am not eliminated in the round where I submit my 12 letter world
King Jamesth: luckily I bet some people will not really do that well, so I bet I will slide by that round
jrdoodle33: yeah people like monica.. and chima i doubt will do well at all
King Jamesth: yeah I bet the strong performers will be you me Renny Lydia and Jordan'
jrdoodle33: i have 9 s
jrdoodle33: i only have 2 v's
jrdoodle33: you have 3
jrdoodle33: A6, B3, C4, D2, E13, F2, G2, H1, I8, J1, K2, L5, M1, N2, O5, P3 Q1, R4, S9, T5, U3, V2, W2, X1, Y2, Z2
King Jamesth: I dont see where you got 9 S
King Jamesth: I am looking now
jrdoodle33: i am circling them now so far i have 8
King Jamesth: I am sure about the three V
King Jamesth: One is in the carpet, right to the right of the table leg
jrdoodle33: ok i'll check for those where are the s's you found?
King Jamesth: the other two are right at the red line where the two walls connect
jrdoodle33: you're right
jrdoodle33: now to find the last s
King Jamesth: I am still only at 7
King Jamesth: I have two on the brown thing
King Jamesth: Two on the bottom of the wall with flames
King Jamesth: One in the mirror, one between the miror and the paintinng
jrdoodle33: i33.tinypic.com/2eus5r5.png
King Jamesth: and one on the yellow pillow
jrdoodle33: i circled an M on accident lol
King Jamesth: oh I see the one I missed
King Jamesth: very good catch
jrdoodle33: what other set were we seeing different numbers on
jrdoodle33: e?
jrdoodle33: i had 13 you had 11
King Jamesth: Yeah
King Jamesth: wow, I could not see that distinction in colour with the two S's on the red coutch. Good find
jrdoodle33: i have 12 so far
jrdoodle33: thanks
jrdoodle33: see if you can find the missing e that i haven't circled on this:
jrdoodle33: i35.tinypic.com/2w5u0ix.png
King Jamesth: no those are the exact same ones as me
King Jamesth: and there are 11
King Jamesth: on there right now
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Jrdoodle33: Hey roddy I'm on my phone so I
Jrdoodle33: Doubt I can make
Jrdoodle33: Words for the hoh
Jrdoodle33:
King Jamesth: yeah, I am trying to see if I can make my words a bit better right now
Jrdoodle33: Maybe I can send the same words as you after you send so you can still win but we have a better shot of knocking people out
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King Jamesth: So far, I have a 27, an 18, and a 15,
Jrdoodle33: Wow that's amazing
King Jamesth: I am a little worried that one might not count, I am gonna ask Chels about it
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King Jamesth: but I dont know what she will count and not count
Jrdoodle33: Yeah that would be a good idea any smaller word you
Jrdoodle33: Could form withthe leftovers?
King Jamesth: Ummm, I am trying to find one right now
Jrdoodle33: What letters are left
King Jamesth: aaceeeeefggjkkllmpqrsstvvwwxyyz
jrdoodle33: Could you send it
jrdoodle33: One
jrdoodle33: More time sorry
King Jamesth: aaceeeeefggjkkllmpqrsstvvwwxyyz
jrdoodle33: what site are you using if any
King Jamesth: cross word solver
King Jamesth: wordbyletter.com
jrdoodle33: i pretended to chima one of my words were 15 letters long and she was like wow that's a lot
jrdoodle33: so i think she basically did tiny words
King Jamesth: lol
jrdoodle33: her first word was
jrdoodle33: electrifying
jrdoodle33: the last word is going to be impiossible since it is not using an O
King Jamesth: I know its damn hard
jrdoodle33: Any luck?
King Jamesth: ummmm, I have changed things up a bit
King Jamesth: I drppped the 15 letter word down to a 13
King Jamesth: and this is what I have
King Jamesth: aceeeeeefggiIjkklmoppqsavvvwwxyz
King Jamesth: for my last word
jrdoodle33: Tough hmm
King Jamesth: Yeah, driving me nuts lol
King Jamesth: I keep on ALMOST having the last word
King Jamesth: but then ONE letter is fucked
jrdoodle33: What's the letter!
King Jamesth: well I have come close a gew times
jrdoodle33: I hope you get it
King Jamesth: I just might have, I am gonna verify,,, I am prolly wrong though
King Jamesth: seems to be the running theme lol
King Jamesth: yep
King Jamesth: lol
jrdoodle33: Is it wrong?
King Jamesth: yeah Its wrong
jrdoodle33: How
King Jamesth: double counted a letter
jrdoodle33: What's the letter
King Jamesth: o
jrdoodle33: E?
jrdoodle33: Oh
King Jamesth: no I got plenty of E's
jrdoodle33: This is impossible
King Jamesth: I know right! I keep on gettting stuck on stupid letters like r, t and o
jrdoodle33: I am stuck on b I and I
jrdoodle33: O
jrdoodle33: What's the new set of letters
King Jamesth: ummm, irs pretty much the same as before
jrdoodle33: Really? Ok
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jrdoodle33: hey bud, any luck?
jrdoodle33: sorry i couldn't have been much help, busy weekend
King Jamesth: I think I am just gonna stick with my original answers
King Jamesth: 24 letters is still pretty likely to win



My conversion with James where I gave him fake reasoning

pennerfan44: u here?
King Jamesth: hey
King Jamesth: yeah I am around
King Jamesth: hows it going?
pennerfan44: good freaking job dude
King Jamesth: thanks, yeah it was a tough one
pennerfan44: yeah srsly
pennerfan44: im shocked jeff didnt win =P
King Jamesth: I know right?
pennerfan44: im so glad u won
pennerfan44: and not *other* ppl
King Jamesth: its gonna be an interesting week. I have no idea what I am gonna do yet.
pennerfan44: oh, as in nominations?
King Jamesth: yeah
pennerfan44: well
pennerfan44: u cant nominate chima =P
pennerfan44: since ur her partner
King Jamesth: yep, thats what I have decided so far lol
pennerfan44: lol nice
pennerfan44: welll
pennerfan44: u've got to start with process of elimination
pennerfan44: and see who ur def not going to nominate
pennerfan44: and see who you've got left
King Jamesth: yeah, I think the thing that complicates everything are those damn divisions
King Jamesth: lol
pennerfan44: why?
pennerfan44: oh cuz you would want Chima up =P
pennerfan44: yeah well
pennerfan44: its a little annoying
King Jamesth: well also certain people cant vote for eachtother
King Jamesth: and have to use veto
pennerfan44: but honestly im still playing this game the same way i was in the first place
King Jamesth: and stuff like that
pennerfan44: oh shit i completely forgot about that
pennerfan44: ur HOH though
pennerfan44: it doesnt rly matter how the week goes =P
pennerfan44: u will still be safe
King Jamesth: thanks, yeah thats how I am looking at it too
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pennerfan44: im back
King Jamesth: hey
King Jamesth: hows it going?
pennerfan44: alrighttt
pennerfan44: playing some gears of war 2
pennerfan44: just wondering
pennerfan44: are me, jeff, and renny safe this week?
King Jamesth: ummmm, I am not sure about that. The alliance is safe from being my target, but there is a member of the alliance in each division
King Jamesth: so I am not sure yet what to do about that
pennerfan44: oh =/
King Jamesth: It kinda sucks, because of the voting rule. it is kinda lot more difficult
pennerfan44: i understand
pennerfan44: hopefully im still safe though =/
pennerfan44: ur the last one im looking to get out in this game
pennerfan44: u can belive dat
King Jamesth: ok, well I will be honest, I cant guarentee anything right now in terms of nominations, because it is mostly gonna be based on the particular person I want out and what division they are in, but I will work to keep whoever I end up using as a pawn (if I don't think of a better plan)
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pennerfan44: who is it that u want out
King Jamesth: still deciding on that.
King Jamesth: once I have decided I am just gonna post
pennerfan44: ok
pennerfan44: im just warning you
pennerfan44: even if u want monica out
pennerfan44: id go over her
pennerfan44: just a warning dude... =/
pennerfan44: i dont rly have many friends
pennerfan44: i tend to rub ppl the wrong way
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pennerfan44: still trying to sort out all your thoughts? =P
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King Jamesth: k sorry came to a decision, and I have put you up this week as a pawn.
King Jamesth: I think we can keep you
pennerfan44: whaaaat?
pennerfan44: man
pennerfan44: no one in this game likes me
pennerfan44: i thought we had a F4
King Jamesth: well I think we are still gonna be able to keep you
King Jamesth: I am sorry to do this to you. I think when Chels posts my nomination it will explain things a bit
pennerfan44: you think?
King Jamesth: yes I do
King Jamesth: Monica is like inactive
King Jamesth: and we just had two quitters
pennerfan44: like why THINK when u can make sure im safe
King Jamesth: I understand where you are coming from, but I am sorry I legitimately felt like it was the best shot - you were a guarenteeed vote against what I wanted unless you were up
pennerfan44: yeah but ppl dont see her as a threat
pennerfan44: and no one in this game likes me
pennerfan44: maybe not even u
pennerfan44: ppl are just going to take this as a chance to eliminate me
King Jamesth: well, I think we can get the votes together.I think both Renny and Jeff have a fair amount of sway with people
pennerfan44: ok
pennerfan44: if u say so =.
pennerfan44: =/
pennerfan44: im going to bed, night
King Jamesth: night

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A Conversation with Kev. I basically told him he is not completely safe this week.

flakeronie: Hay Roddy
flakeronie:
flakeronie: I wanted to say congrats.
King Jamesth: hey Kev
King Jamesth: hows it going?
King Jamesth: and thanks
flakeronie: Oh. Good. Work was so long.
flakeronie: And I hated it.
flakeronie:
flakeronie: What about you?
flakeronie: What is going on
King Jamesth: ummm, I didnt have to work today (which like, NEVER happens)
flakeronie: UM.
flakeronie: Im so jealous.
flakeronie:
flakeronie: I had to learn to do ear piercing stuff today.
flakeronie:
King Jamesth: what is your job exactly?
flakeronie: lol. dont laugh. but i work at claires. you know what that is right/
flakeronie:
King Jamesth: lingerie correct?
flakeronie: aw. no silly. claire's is a girly girl store. It ranges in ages from like 2 thought high school. it has a lot of little things like make up, hair stuff, boots, hats, scarves, little fun things, and ecct.
flakeronie: jw, but any idea on your noms yet?
flakeronie:
King Jamesth: oh, the way you said it I thought it was like taboo
King Jamesth: lol
flakeronie: lol. what is taboo?
King Jamesth: lol nm brainfart
King Jamesth: ummm, and on noms... I am thinking still
King Jamesth: but I am prolly gonna post them soon.
flakeronie: so just wondering, but any chance im getting nommed?
flakeronie: understandable too. taking ur times on noms is good.
King Jamesth: ummm, I am kinda figuring things out with that right now. I don't think that I am gonna nominate you, but I will also be honest there are also limited options and the divisions complicate things a lot.
King Jamesth: but I am pretty sure you are not gonna go up at this point
flakeronie: Mmmkay. Well, just let me know if I am. Like this game is really starting to get confusing. Like for some reason people I thought I knew where they stood, I really have no idea where they stand now. And I understand you have limited options to go with atm.
King Jamesth: yeah I will tell you beforehand, but like I said, I do not think it is happening
flakeronie: Good thanks. So, where do we stand with each other?
King Jamesth: well, I am not gonna be all fake with you and tell you that you are my number one person in the house (I personally hate it when people do that to me), but I do like you and I would like to see you stick around. I would miss the fish if you were gone <3.
flakeronie: Aw. Well, I was just wondering. I mean I think that Jeff is having second thoughts of me, so I was just wondering what you thought because I did still want to work with you. And thanks for not being fake and being real with me because that is how I am with you. The alliance is like totally slit and I know what happened with everything, but lke that doesnt mean it has to break everyone up. And I have no idea why Jeff why Jeff is having second thoughts with me really. And aw, the fish is like part of me. Lol.
flakeronie: <3
King Jamesth: well, I think that Jeff is a very eratic player. But I agree with you. I would like to continue with you. The only thing that I am a little bit hesitent is to commit to too much. I do not intend to nominate you, but I will admit that it is a possibility if the veto gets used. Depending on who uses it and stuff
flakeronie: That I might go up?
King Jamesth: yeah.
King Jamesth: Because of the divisions
flakeronie: I dont understand how your breaking that up.
King Jamesth: well, it is hard to explain without telling you who my nominations are going to be
flakeronie: oh.
flakeronie: alright.
King Jamesth: but
King Jamesth: say if Renny uses veto
King Jamesth: and takes someone off the block
King Jamesth: that would put me in a tough position, and it is why I wouldnt want to guarentee you that you would not be nominated
King Jamesth: btw, you two ARE a division right? If you aren't then sorry.
flakeronie: Oh, so what divisions are there? Jw. And you know I'd tell you who my partner is. It is Renny.
flakeronie: You just had to ask.
flakeronie:
King Jamesth: lol, mine is Chima
King Jamesth: we are the division of navy
flakeronie: So how many divisions are there?
King Jamesth: 5
King Jamesth: of 2
King Jamesth: well, Jase left
King Jamesth: so I guess 4 of 2 and 1 of 1
flakeronie: Oh. So, youd have a lot of options kind of. Or maybe Im just misunderstanding it.
flakeronie: Well, I guess not really if you had an alliance or whatever.
King Jamesth: meh, its a complicated situation with the divisions. Anyways, I am not trying to justify anything, I just didnt want to lie to you about shit
King Jamesth: And the truth of the matter is that I would really like to see you stay, but I am also not the type to commit to things early
King Jamesth: But you are not going to be put on the block when I make noms tonight, (please just keep that to yourself, they will be up soon)
flakeronie: I'm not telling anyone promise. ~pinky promise~ It is okay, I know you have a lot going on with you, but if I could be honest, half of my allies have went home. And unlike them, I'm not going to quit because it makes me really mad when people just up and quit games. So I just wanted to throw that fact out there.
King Jamesth: I am glad you feel that way. I clearly feel the same way as my posts in the forum made evident (understatement? maybe.)
King Jamesth: It just made me really mad that he accused Chelsbot of rigging
flakeronie: You have no idea of the spot that I was in. I mean people are telling me to quit and stuff and that the game is rigged. Its like what am I suppose to believe. I mean I wasn't accusing anyone of anything at all.
flakeronie: *were
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King Jamesth: OK noms have been sent in and you are not on the block.
flakeronie: Well, thankyou.
flakeronie: Good luck with all your other decisions as well.

[Roddy Mancu$o]

Jeff and I during Veto

King Jamesth: hey
jrdoodle33: hey roddy, how is it going bud?
King Jamesth: hey, its going pretty good
King Jamesth: interesting veto
jrdoodle33: yeah i know
jrdoodle33: i think one of us should win the veto
jrdoodle33: the silver veto
King Jamesth: yeah I agree
King Jamesth: maybe also the mystery box
jrdoodle33: i also would like to get yes that!
jrdoodle33: i kind of wanted the freeze thing but that means
jrdoodle33: one less person we have to compete with
jrdoodle33: plus if someone takes the no veto for you
King Jamesth: I think the freeze thing would suck for you and I
jrdoodle33: i think so too
jrdoodle33: we should go for the veto/mystery box and like the hoh advantage
King Jamesth: ok, so I am kinda thinking that this veto might be a useful tool for us, if we can find one more person to kinda work with... I am thinking Lyd would be a good option
King Jamesth: when she comes on
jrdoodle33: i think the best thing would if Lydia works with us
jrdoodle33: her to get the hoh advantage
jrdoodle33: me the veto
jrdoodle33: and you the mystery box
jrdoodle33: because even if she nominated you i save you automatically
jrdoodle33: she can't nominate me, and it leaves her with nothing really
King Jamesth: plus, I don't think she would even really come after us anyways
jrdoodle33: me either, i think betting 100 dollars is a gurantee win on these items though, don't you think?
King Jamesth: no
jrdoodle33: if someone bids 100
King Jamesth: because it has to be unique
jrdoodle33: and no one else does they auto win
jrdoodle33: i doubt the 6 other castmates would bid 100
King Jamesth: I dont see why Chima would hesitate
King Jamesth: she can't be nominated this week
jrdoodle33: well we could see what she's going for
King Jamesth: yeah we have lots of time to figure this shit out
King Jamesth: I do not like the laughing gas thing
jrdoodle33: I feel tons of people will go for the freeze item
King Jamesth: lol well I am hoping Chima gets it
King Jamesth: not like she would win HoH anyways, and it means I don't lose a potential nomiantino
jrdoodle33: did she bid on it?
King Jamesth: I dont know, her and I brely talk
King Jamesth: I wonder what the mystery item will be
jrdoodle33: i wonder too, what do you think it could end up being?
King Jamesth: maybe it would allow me to pick the veto replacement at some point through the game. That would be awesome
King Jamesth: but I am thinking it will probably be a double vote or something
jrdoodle33: i don't think it will have to do with votes, as the other prizes tie into that
King Jamesth: yeah that is true
King Jamesth: maybe immunity or something
King Jamesth: because immunity is not a prize yet
jrdoodle33: yeah it has to be something good
King Jamesth: hopefully we will not have to use the mystery box next week
jrdoodle33: i know, i have a great feeling we're going to do well and not need any special prizes
jrdoodle33: we do great on competitions
King Jamesth: Im thinking... I will talk to Lyd about this later
King Jamesth: but, I am thinking that the HoH advantage isnt't That big a deal
King Jamesth: and I think that the mystery box might be kinda hard to get
King Jamesth: so I think it might make sense if I bid 100 on it, and then Lyd bets like 99 or something like that, and then the remainder would go to the HoH benefit
King Jamesth: so that we can be sure that the mystery box does not fall into anyone else's hands
King Jamesth: because I don't really care if anyone else gets the other powers, but that one has potential to screw us
jrdoodle33: yeah that is true but i don't believe lydia would tell us what is inside the mystery box
jrdoodle33: so i don't feel safe with that
King Jamesth: but who would you rather have it?
King Jamesth: if not me or Lyd
King Jamesth: Ren?
jrdoodle33: chima she's weak lol
King Jamesth: hmmm, true
King Jamesth: I will talk to her about that. Something like, we know that we are not coming after eachother, so why not take a chance at a secret power together?
jrdoodle33: i think if we ask people what they're bidding on and if we know that we can then think what we're going to do
King Jamesth: yeah, but people will lie to us on this one, we have to remember that much because the results are never revealed
jrdoodle33: it's never revealed?
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jrdoodle33: still here
King Jamesth: When I post results, I will reveal whether or not someone has won each item, but I will not reveal who has won which item. Each Houseguest will receive a PM notifying them of which items they have won.

King Jamesth: also, I am pretty sure that we are gonna dominate the HoH regardless of whether or not we get that advantage
King Jamesth: its not like they have ever really been close, lmao
jrdoodle33: haha yeah that is true
jrdoodle33: well i think we should hold off on the bids
King Jamesth: yeah me too
King Jamesth: no reason to rush into things
jrdoodle33: i think a lot of people will go for the freeze
King Jamesth: omg
King Jamesth: I just thought of something amazing
jrdoodle33: tell me
King Jamesth: ok, so this will be hard to pull off, but think of how amazing this would be
King Jamesth: it would require the collaberation of four people
King Jamesth: who are not trying for the veto
King Jamesth: but anyways, you pick the four items that you as an alliance want the most, and you each choose one and bid 100 on it. It almost ensures that if you don't get it, no one does... if you see what I am saying
jrdoodle33: yes i see what you're saying
King Jamesth: But we need four though
jrdoodle33: but we have to make sure we trust these people
King Jamesth: well, yeah, but only to a degree
King Jamesth: if I insist I want the mystery box.
jrdoodle33: could you have jordan bid on the hoh advantage?
King Jamesth: Ummm, I think the frozen thing might be an easier sell to her
King Jamesth: she doesnt have an ally to vote her in
King Jamesth: or use veto on her
King Jamesth: I think we could sell Lydia on the HoH advantage
King Jamesth: and I mean, if it comes down to it, I would still bid 100 on it, so she would know she is not getting it, because we would cancel eachother out.
King Jamesth: Sorry, i mean I would still bid 100 on the mystery box
jrdoodle33: yeah that is true
jrdoodle33: if veto is used who is going up?
King Jamesth: depends who uses it
jrdoodle33: renny?
King Jamesth: I dunno to be honest
King Jamesth: it would be either Renny or Kevin, but I don't know which yet
jrdoodle33: i hope someone we don't like gets the no veto for you
King Jamesth: yeah, me too
King Jamesth: I wonder
King Jamesth: with the silver power of veto, do you think you could veto a replacement nominee?
King Jamesth: I think we can make this happen
King Jamesth: I think it will help with them if they think it is like my idea, and I am pushing for it, because Jordan is skeptcal of you
jrdoodle33: i wonder if we could do that
jrdoodle33: we should ask if we could do it on a replacement nominee
King Jamesth: because if we could, then I would even up the anti a little bit with Lyd. I would tell her I would throw HoH to her if it was between us. Because you could use that veto for sure to keep me safe
King Jamesth: so it would be no risk
jrdoodle33: yeah that would be a good idea
King Jamesth: you know, if Alex or Russ was still here, I would be a little nervous about other people mobilizing
King Jamesth: but that last HoH showed that most people do not understand how to do that
King Jamesth: well, not so much mobilize, but strategize
jrdoodle33: yeah it's like we're not even playing against many people
King Jamesth: I have a feeling James might win this veto.
jrdoodle33: me too
King Jamesth: makes me glad I told him he was a pawn
jrdoodle33: yeah i really want him gone though
King Jamesth: well if he doesnt go this week, I think Lydia wouldn't hesitate to nominate him
jrdoodle33: i think jordan needs to go too
jrdoodle33: but you like her
King Jamesth: well, she is one of the few people in the house I have a relationship with really
King Jamesth: I would say that you Lyd and Jordan are the only people I ever enjoy talking to. And sometimes Renny.
jrdoodle33: she thinks i have a herd of sheep lol
King Jamesth: its because we do
jrdoodle33: lol yes we do
jrdoodle33: she only sees it as me which is fine but i don't bring up you because i wouldn't want to be nominated against one another
King Jamesth: well right now, part of me is motivated by the fact that I like her, but I am not stupid. If it is necessary to drop her, I will. I just think that right now eliminating her would be dumb because it leaves two hostile divisions in tact.
King Jamesth: And I really dont think she would want to nominate me, because I think she plays kinda emotionally
jrdoodle33: yeah she's extremely emotional
jrdoodle33: these divisions like you say though, are huge
King Jamesth: I hope we can break up the last one next week
jrdoodle33: because we now have 2 guaranteed votes to keep us
King Jamesth: exactly
jrdoodle33: we need to take out a lot of people it seems
jrdoodle33: jordan/lydia/renny/james
King Jamesth: lol, well right now Lydia is not a threat at all
jrdoodle33: you have a good relationship with many of them though
King Jamesth: with 2 I would say
King Jamesth: On the other hand, I have literall no relationship with Monica or Chima, and only distant relationships with Renny and James.
jrdoodle33: chima i think i can control
King Jamesth: Yeah, Chima is not threatening to me at the moment.
jrdoodle33: she is like the biggest goat we could use to secure competition wins
King Jamesth: what do you mean?
jrdoodle33: like she will never win a competition
King Jamesth: oh I see what you mean
King Jamesth: This plan could be so badass
King Jamesth: the veto thing
King Jamesth: if we can get it to work
jrdoodle33: i know it would be
jrdoodle33: we could use renny to possibly cancel out things
King Jamesth: why?
jrdoodle33: i do NOT trust renny and james
jrdoodle33: they're probably already pissed at you
King Jamesth: why would we want Renny to cancel someone out though?
jrdoodle33: so they wouldn't get it?
jrdoodle33: like the freeze thing
King Jamesth: umm
King Jamesth: well someone is going to get it regardless I think...
jrdoodle33: yeah
King Jamesth: and I think Jordan is a good candidate because then we can sell the HoH thing to Lyd
King Jamesth: and besides, I think Jordan being out of the round is not a bad thing
jrdoodle33: well i don't like her but true
King Jamesth: besides, when you think about it, this could really work at making sure that Renny James, Jordan and Lydia do not come together
King Jamesth: against us
jrdoodle33: that's true
King Jamesth: ok, well I think I will be able to sell it to them
jrdoodle33: i would be excited if you could
King Jamesth: its easy, because I will just be like 'listen, you guys KNOW you have immunity from me this week. You only need to have 4 potential nominess. So I think we should gun for the advantages since we can afford it.
King Jamesth: or somethinglike that
jrdoodle33: yeah they would listen to you
King Jamesth: yeah, I think I can do this
jrdoodle33: be right back
King Jamesth: kk
King Jamesth: Lydia is on board
jrdoodle33: sounds good i'll be back in a bit!
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King Jamesth: ok, so the silver power of veto comes AFTER the golden power of veto ceremony
King Jamesth: so we are, ironically I may add, golden if we win the silver power of veto and Lyd gets HoH
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King Jamesth: ok Lydia is 100% on board
jrdoodle33: she is?
King Jamesth: yep, well, this plan is extrememly mutally beneficial IMO
King Jamesth: btw, I have already told Lyd I will help her with the upcoming HoH, I dont know if you want to as well, we are in the clear with her in control.
jrdoodle33: true
jrdoodle33: and it keeps the blood off our hands
King Jamesth: plus it means that you and I are both voting
King Jamesth: and if jordan is frozen that round, that means two votes plus and HoH tiebreaker guarentees we get our way
jrdoodle33: which means
jrdoodle33: 2/6
jrdoodle33: true
King Jamesth: 2/4
jrdoodle33:
jrdoodle33: who would she nominate?
King Jamesth: I dont know, I think she would probably want to target the clique that is in tact after this week
jrdoodle33: renny and kevin?
King Jamesth: I think so, unless something weird happens with this veto/vote
jrdoodle33: who would you rather put up if monica came down?
jrdoodle33: probably renny?
King Jamesth: I dunno to be honest. Maybe Kev, but it depends if I can talk to Renny
King Jamesth: btw, if James pulls out this veto (I kinda have a sinking feeling he will), I want Monica gone, so I would probably put up Kev, would you vote out Monica in that situation?
jrdoodle33: sure
King Jamesth: alright cool. then I can assure Kev safety which is nice.
King Jamesth: ideally though
King Jamesth: I would just like these noms not to change
King Jamesth: but with what we might be getting out of this veto, beggers can't be choosers... lmao
jrdoodle33: same here, i like them the way they are
jrdoodle33: haha yes
jrdoodle33: we're basically like guaranteed final 7
jrdoodle33: if this works
King Jamesth: yeah and I doubt that Lydia's target will be Chima, so we will probably have our divisions in tact going into final 7 as well
jrdoodle33: i would also bet chima would bet on the freeze
King Jamesth: thats not necessarily a good thing
King Jamesth: so lets hope that she doesnt bet all 100 on the freeze, because then some random person might get it
jrdoodle33: i know
jrdoodle33: does lydia talk about me?
King Jamesth: not very much
King Jamesth: and not negatively with me anyways
King Jamesth: maybe you can convince Chima to putt a bit in the nullification because you haven't heard of anyone going for it?
King Jamesth: I dont know how much she would listen to you though since I barely know her
jrdoodle33: yeah i wonder what she would do, and she's hardly on
King Jamesth: well maybe people won't bid 100 on things
jrdoodle33: you freaked out at first when i said lets bid 100 on some things so probably not
jrdoodle33: and you think a lot
King Jamesth: lol
King Jamesth: I didn't understand exactly what the challenge said at that point
jrdoodle33:
King Jamesth: DAAAAAMMMNNNN JORDAN
King Jamesth: still away
jrdoodle33: haha i know she is always away
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King Jamesth: lol you made me think he quit
jrdoodle33: haha
King Jamesth: I would have been really annoyed if he did quit
King Jamesth: Because then the jury will be all fuckecd
jrdoodle33: yeah i would be annoyed too
King Jamesth: lol I do not think it is going to happen though
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King Jamesth: ugh, I just want Jordan to come online
King Jamesth: seal the deal on these prizes
King Jamesth:
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King Jamesth: k I am making progress with Jordan. PLEASE dont persuade Chima to fuck her over or anything.
Jrdoodle33: On what?
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King Jamesth: on getting the frozen thing
King Jamesth: I am almost there with her.
Jrdoodle33: I haven't talked to chimma and I'll keep it this way
King Jamesth: alright cool
King Jamesth: ok its a go!
Jrdoodle33: Awesome man!!!
King Jamesth: now we just gotta hope that everything goes according to plan
Jrdoodle33: I know
Jrdoodle33: Renny wants the mystery one
King Jamesth: Well if she bids 100 for it, I guess it will cancel me out
Jrdoodle33: Tell her two people bet 100 for it
King Jamesth: who should I say?
Jrdoodle33: You and chimaa
Jrdoodle33: Sound good?
King Jamesth: lol she didnt even ask for the name of the second person yet
Jrdoodle33: Haha

Securing Lydia in the plan

King Jamesth: hey, just checking if you are invis, because I am . If not, message me when you get this. Its a good thing so no stress.
katylady3209: Present though i forgot i was invsible. i just signed on like 2 minutes ago.
katylady3209: Whats up?
King Jamesth: have you seen the veto competition yet?
katylady3209: Just read through it. Alot of reading lol
katylady3209: Got a game plan? I think it would be good if we worked together.
King Jamesth: yeah, I do... I think I have a pretty good one actually
King Jamesth: but one thing about it is it requires collaberation of more than 2
King Jamesth: so, I have to ask you, would you be willing to work with Jeff and Jordan on this? It is not in a major capacity, but I think it is a pretty good plan if that isnt a problem.
katylady3209: Yeah me and Jordan are cool plus Jeff is my partner.
King Jamesth: ok cool, well I am gonna have to talk to Jordan about this, but Jeff I have already talked to
King Jamesth: Anyways, the thing that I can guarentee you 100% is that you, Jeff and Jordan have no reason to want veto at all this week
King Jamesth: because as an HoH, you need to have 4 people to pick from as potential nominees, and you and Jordan are not among them
King Jamesth: and Jeff
King Jamesth: but those benefits are pretty nice
katylady3209: Yeah they are. They could really change the game. Though Im scared if they get in the wrong hands.
katylady3209: Who dont you want to win veto this week? Is Monica your target?
King Jamesth: to be honest I would like Monica to leave, but I am reall just trying to break up one of the other two divisions
King Jamesth: yeah I was thinking about the problems of the wrong people getting those powers too
King Jamesth: so, what I think we should do, is one of us bids 100 on each of the last four items (Jordan on freeze because she feels insecure not having a partner, Jeff on silver, me on mystery, you on HoH, but also since that is kinda lame, I would work with you to get the HoH if it is possible)
katylady3209: Yeah that works out for me. I really want to win HoH at some point and you three will be for sure safe. But I completely agree with that as long as we are all on the same boat.
King Jamesth: alright. And I will also promise you obviously that if my mystery box intereferes with nominations I will not use it.
katylady3209: Oh ok lol, i trust you. I think me and you have the same thought process on who we both want out and who we want to stay.
katylady3209: So Jeff is cool with that plan? I hope Jordan and him can put aside their differences.
King Jamesth: yeah Jeff is cool with it
King Jamesth: I will explain to Jordan that yeah you dont like Jeff, but you are probably getting a free week out of this
King Jamesth: she is smart
King Jamesth: she will see it I think
katylady3209: Yeah as long as your promise her safety, im sure she will agree.
katylady3209: you*
King Jamesth: yeah, this could be so epic.
katylady3209: I dont think the other four will see it. They know that I dont get along with Jeff that well, and they wont see Jeff and Jordan working together after their blowout. lol
King Jamesth: well the best part is we never have to tell anyone
King Jamesth: Jen doesnt reveal who got what
King Jamesth: except maybe that our scores will make it obvious
katylady3209: We are basically promising Jordan safey this week and next. So basically final 7.
katylady3209: True... But Jordan can just say that she wanted that because she doesnt have a partner
katylady3209: and i can just saw i really want HoH
King Jamesth: oh yeah, good point
katylady3209: and your choice is obvious...you can just say you went balls out for the mystery
katylady3209: i dont know what jeff's excuse will be though
katylady3209: say* not saw
katylady3209: So if Monica goes down...James will be voted out. and if James goes down, Monica will be voted off? Or the replacement?
King Jamesth: ummm, I am not really sure. I think that it will depend on what happens at the end of the week to be honest.
King Jamesth: like, I am sure something will happen. I basically am just happy to break up a division
King Jamesth: I think it is stupid when and HoH tries to completely dictate a vote anyways. Like, I will give my opinion to people and stuff, but I don't really hold it against people if they disagree.
King Jamesth: because if an HoH wants to make SURE someone stays
King Jamesth: then you do not nominate them
katylady3209: Very true. Because they have no power who leaves after nominations unless its a tie.
King Jamesth: well, if veto IS used this week, I think that you and I are gonna be chief deciders of what happens
King Jamesth: becuase Kev/Renny and James/Monica will essentially cancel eachother out
King Jamesth: meaning that the vote is between 4 ppl
katylady3209: Yep. Gosh partners play a major part in this game.
King Jamesth: and I am tiebreaker
King Jamesth: so it will be a very interesting week
katylady3209: Haha yeah and it will be even more interesting with the prizes.
katylady3209: Trying to get the veto is risky because those negative prizes are harsh next week.
katylady3209: You have to be 100 percent sure you are leaving this week in order to go for those.
King Jamesth: I think James will go for it and win
katylady3209: Most likely. Which means that next week it will make it easier for us.
King Jamesth: or maybe Mon will win. Who knows?
katylady3209: Yeah. But your speech was great and true. I hardly know anything about Monica either. I dont think most pple do.
katylady3209: She is a HUGE wild card.
King Jamesth: she was like 'that came out of the blue'...
King Jamesth: and I was like
King Jamesth: the only intereaction I had with you this entire time has basically been the one time when you screwed me on HoH
katylady3209: LOL
King Jamesth: of course that last part was inside my head
katylady3209: yeah haha, yeah i wanted to say something in the thread but its not worth starting a pointless arguement.
King Jamesth: you wanna see the funniest conversation I think I have ever had on AIM?
King Jamesth: its with monica
katylady3209: Haha sure.
King Jamesth: Shaka172 (2:34:58 PM):Hello mr. Roddy
King Jamesth (2:35:03 PM):hey Monica
King Jamesth (2:35:08 PM):hows it going?
Shaka172 (2:36:10 PM):Good
Shaka172 (2:36:16 PM):N u?
King Jamesth (2:36:57 PM):good... just updating the good ol' DR with some conversations
King Jamesth (2:37:25 PM):some are from last week, because I couldn't keep up with all that crazyness.
Shaka172 (2:37:38 PM):Yea me either
Shaka172 (2:37:44 PM):Lol
Shaka172 (2:37:50 PM):N no one talks to me
Shaka172 (2:38:00 PM):So this week imma go the extra mile to talk to people lol King Jamesth (2:40:49 PM):yeah I know what you mean. Still a few people in the house that I barely know. I thought I would get to know them towards the beginning of the first week, but then all of the sudden shit was hitting the fan. King Jamesth (2:41:01 PM):kinda made me lose focus lol Shaka172 (2:56:39 PM):Lol
King Jamesth: oops the end is kinda screwed up
King Jamesth: and that was the entire conversation btw
King Jamesth: ok so maybe I was exaggerating about how funny it was, but I think its hilarious that directly after she tells me she is gonna make an effort to talk to me, she basically stops talking to me
katylady3209: Haha I just read that. Yeah I think I had just one conversation with her....probably week 2 or 3, and the converstion only lasted like a few sentences.
katylady3209: It just died, and it had no hopes of living lol
katylady3209: I know this sounds bad, but sometimes I forgot she is in the game during the beginning.
King Jamesth: lol, I was the same way with Chima
katylady3209: Chima is alittle better. But I really only know Monica when she says "ITS AWWNNNN" thats all i know
katylady3209: something is AWWWNN
katylady3209: lol
King Jamesth: yeah I remember when she first posted that. I thought it meant she would start talking to people. Guess not, lol
King Jamesth: I think her and Renny might be kinda tight though, I could be wrong though
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katylady3209: I think Monica just hides behind Renny's shadow and thats it.
katylady3209: They were in the same clique i guess
King Jamesth: yeah... I honestly just dont know how somone could hold up a conversation with Monical lol. Like we are both servers, but I can barely even connect with her on that lol. We are just different people I guess
katylady3209: Yeah and maybe she doesnt care about the game? she did post this.....
King Jamesth: oh, I didnt realize that. Lame
katylady3209: hold on lol
katylady3209: im finding it
katylady3209: she posted this in the jeff/jordan callout thread
katylady3209: I didnt know either.

This game is getting stupid and draining.

Everyone is qutting and its really bugging me. So many flaws....

I feel like we started playing last week and we are already at jury.
King Jamesth: oh yeah I remember reading that
katylady3209: She shouldnt attack the game
King Jamesth: Yeah I know, if she was actually participating she would probably enjoy it
katylady3209: Exactly. She either doesnt care about the game and/or playing VERY under the radar.
katylady3209: I dont like either of them lol
King Jamesth: yeah, I told James that he is a pawn, but only because I know that he is loopy and would annoy me if I told him that I dont really care what happens between the two of them.
katylady3209: True, it was smart to make sure he thinks he is a pawn. I think he is VERY unstable. He snaps at any time.
katylady3209: I attacked him once during the HoH #3 challenge.
katylady3209: and he asked me why i was attacking him and I was taking awhile to answer him [because like lots of people inside and outside the game was talking to me]
katylady3209: and I said "sorry i was talking to people"
katylady3209: and he told me "well quit paying attention to them, and focus on me"
katylady3209: and I am like excuse me? lol
King Jamesth: lol
King Jamesth: as soon as I won HoH, he started being like. You are the last person I would ever nominate in this game. It was just so obviously fake lol
King Jamesth: it was funny, because Jeff totally told me in advance. He was kinda like "Watch, James will be the first person to message you and tell you how much he's always been with you'
katylady3209: LMAO. So true. Its nice to watch some of these pple worry.
katylady3209: They probably thought that me and Jeff would still be at it and that Jordan and Jeff would be after eacother they wouldnt have to worry for awhile.
King Jamesth: I know I am so excited for this plan if it works
King Jamesth: the only possible wildcard in this challenge IMO is Chima
King Jamesth: who knows what she will do? she knows she is not gonna be nominated
katylady3209: True. Is she close to Jeff? I think I heard that a few weeks ago but im not sure. I dont think she is close with the nominees but you can never be sure.
King Jamesth: I think that she might be close with Jeff. But I am not close with her so I dont know
katylady3209: Im reading Jeff/Jordans fight thread because i really didnt go through it when they were posting. Its actually pretty funny lol
King Jamesth: omg I know right?
King Jamesth: OOPS2YOU!
King Jamesth: lol
katylady3209: haha i am now going to start saying that
katylady3209: i never heard of that before.
katylady3209: i laughed hard. lol Jordan is funny.
katylady3209: Its just funny becaues Jeff is talking and using good grammer and then Jordan just says....OPPS2YOU!
katylady3209: Classic.
King Jamesth: Yeah, it was a pretty epic thread, because you could tell the fight was not like uber personal.
King Jamesth: like it is a fight between Jeff and Jordan
King Jamesth: but it is like kinda between the characters of Jeff and Jordan
King Jamesth: if that makes sense
katylady3209: yeah i know what your talking about.
katylady3209: lol
katylady3209: Is Jordan on yet? If I go before you talk to her, then you have to PM what happened.
King Jamesth: ummm, no I dont think she is on yet, but I think she usually comes on a little closer to 10
King Jamesth: but I will PM you if you have to leave beforehand
King Jamesth: so you are cool with the plan?
katylady3209: Yeah totally. I want you to have the mystery power. I trust you more with it lol.
katylady3209: And If I get HoH, we control basically this week and the next
katylady3209: which could be big
King Jamesth: yeah, I think that this veto challenge can basically set things up for quite a while
King Jamesth: I am so excited to have won HoH this particular week, lol
katylady3209: I know, it was actually perfect timing. lol
King Jamesth: oh, and btw, I thought of something
katylady3209: ok
King Jamesth: I am pretty sure cliques have to be done by f5
King Jamesth: because say if you win HoH, and you nominate Jordan and Chima, what would happen if I used veto, lol
King Jamesth: it wouldnt make sense
King Jamesth: and I dont think that Chelsbot would take out veto that week
King Jamesth: because I would HAVE to use it
katylady3209: True plus remember when you said it will be over at 2/3. Like we were split into partners after 1/3
King Jamesth: I think it will end at final 6
katylady3209: Yeah most likely. Do you think renny has one of the secret powers?
katylady3209: I failed my mission and Jordan did hers.
katylady3209: she failed it i ment
King Jamesth: no
King Jamesth: I think that Renny failed hers too
King Jamesth: ummm, so are you allowed to speak about the missions now?
katylady3209: Im not sure. I think if we failed them it doesnt matter. But i guess to be on the safe side.
katylady3209: It was mentioned all over the jeff/jordan thread.
King Jamesth: lol they dont say what the task is though, only that there is one
King Jamesth: I am just nervous that I will be involved in the task of the survivor of this week's eviction
katylady3209: Im not sure if all of the are kind of the same or completely different
katylady3209: i never really asked jordan or renny
King Jamesth: true. Well I will watch for suspicious behaviour anyways
King Jamesth: next week
katylady3209: Yeah they are kind of far out missions, or atleast mine was.
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King Jamesth: yeah I kinda got that impression.
King Jamesth: well hopefully no one on the block rright now gets a power
King Jamesth: lol
katylady3209: I dont think so...with James and Monica's social skills? No way lol
King Jamesth: good point lol
King Jamesth: not too many strong players still here lol
King Jamesth: I picked you our early on btw as being one
katylady3209: Really? I guess its good we are still here because Jeff would steam roll through everybody and it wouldnt even be fun watching.
King Jamesth: ok, so it sounds like there will not be much of a way for people to know who got what
katylady3209: what? for the prizes?
King Jamesth: yeah, like scores are not going to be revealed
King Jamesth: so it is good for us laying low
katylady3209: Thats good to know.
katylady3209: I need to run for a bit, PM me when you talk to Jordan if we dont talk again tonight.
katylady3209: Talk to you later <3
King Jamesth: later <3

Selling Jordan on the plan

King Jamesth: hey
King Jamesth: hows it going?
jordolloyd: good and u?
jordolloyd: thanks for my key btw
King Jamesth: your welcome, I am glad to give it to you
jordolloyd: whats up?
King Jamesth: have you read veto yet?
jordolloyd: yeah
King Jamesth: ok, well, I was kinda thinking about how to go about that veto
King Jamesth: because it is very interesting with what is being offered
jordolloyd: yeah
King Jamesth: sorry 1 sec
King Jamesth: brb
jordolloyd: i have a feeling one of james or monica are gonna end up winning it
King Jamesth: I have a plan
jordolloyd: okay
King Jamesth: K sorry if I am a bit back and forth with this conversation, I am in the middle of an online board game
jordolloyd: oh okay, thats fine
King Jamesth: ok, so, I was thinking that if we work together, it is pretty likely we can be sure to win the prizes. Because all of this plan is under the knowledge that you are not going to be a veto replacement under any circumstances
King Jamesth: but anyways, if you and I plus two others each bet 100 on the advantages, we can almost ensure that either we get it or no one does
King Jamesth: I mean, there is like weird scenarios that could arise, where like two people bet 100 on something, and one person bids 1 so they end up with it
King Jamesth: make sense so far?
jordolloyd: yeah it makes sense
King Jamesth: ok, well I do have an idea for what I think would be a good idea
King Jamesth: and I think it could pretty much ensure us final 7
King Jamesth: but it would require you to be willing to cooperate with Jeff and Lydia if that is cool
jordolloyd: i dont trust jeff
King Jamesth: well it doesnt require you to trust him
jordolloyd: well, it kinda does. how do i know if he will do whatever he claims he will be doing?
King Jamesth: well here is the plan
King Jamesth: Lydia goes for HoH advantage, because she wants to win. I go for Mystery box, Jeff goes for silver power of veto, and you go for cyrogenically frozen. Because it guarentees safety
King Jamesth: Lydia winning HoH makes Jeff savfe
King Jamesth: so and Lydia also would not nominate you even if you didnt get the power
jordolloyd: how do u know that she wouldnt? i dont know, i just feel like i can go for this frozen then, but all it really does is guarantee me safety for this one week and then ill be screwed. it definitely wasnt my first choice of prize to go after.
King Jamesth: ummm, Lydia is one of the people that I really talk to in the game. And I talked with her. I obviously don't know 100% that she won't go for you, because I am not her, but I really don't think she wants to.
King Jamesth: and also I dont see why you think it puts you in bad shape at final 7.
jordolloyd: because at that point, jeff has control of the game.
King Jamesth: and why does he have control over the game?
jordolloyd: because he has this special veto crap and has a good relationship with everyone in the game and i just feel like people listen to him. it scares me.
King Jamesth: the veto only works next week
King Jamesth: and the justification for him taking it is that since we would try to help Lydia for the HoH, it would ensure that even if Lyd went haywire and nominated me, we would still all be safe
King Jamesth: and it would guarentee all 4 final 7
jordolloyd: anyways, to be honest, i feel like if i bid on anything, jeff is just gonna get renny to bid the same amount as me and then have someone else bid 1$ so that he has some sort of control on every prize that has been won. even james staying this week, i feel like could possibly benefit jeff because if he stays, he gets a mystery task and i wouldnt be surprised if they are aligned. i dont know.
King Jamesth: well I dunno. I dont see what not setting your sights on something something is doing to benefit you. And I know that you are cautious of working with Jeff, but you are not really relying on much from him IMO. I have talked to Jeff a lot about this. And I dont think Renny even feels safe enough to steal it from you because she is a potential nominee.
King Jamesth: by steal, I mean cancel
jordolloyd: i hope you know that its not you im having issues with
jordolloyd: it is completely, 1000000% jeff lol
King Jamesth: well its just like
King Jamesth: how does not making an attempt at working together help us at all?
King Jamesth: like if he screws you it is not like you are any worse off than before. But I dont see why he would, it benefits him for you not to cast a vote or compete for HoH because obviously you guys have a poor relationship
jordolloyd: i know it does, but i just feel like.. i would be attempting to stay at the same spot i am right now. i feel like im at the bottom of everything and me going for safety for one week, doesnt help me much at all, except being guaranteed an extra week.
King Jamesth: well first off
King Jamesth: 2 weeks
King Jamesth: jus sayin
King Jamesth: also, it is clear I want you around
jordolloyd: and then being at the same spot and have no chance of getting out of my rut
jordolloyd: i know, lol. i dont think otherwise, trust me
King Jamesth: its like
King Jamesth: what could we possibly gain by not trying this
jordolloyd: im not saying i wont
King Jamesth: ok
King Jamesth: well I know it is a lot to ask of you to consider working with someone that you have so publicly fought with lol. But I personally think the rewards are totally worth it. Especially when you consider the fact that if we dont get the prizes other people will
King Jamesth: also, no one other than the four of us will have to know about this collaberation
jordolloyd: so lydia wants to do this?
King Jamesth: yeah she is in
King Jamesth: also, I will make sure that if I use the mystery power you will not get impacted by it
jordolloyd: ill be really pissed if jeff gets the mystery box
King Jamesth: no I am
King Jamesth: I am putting 100 on it regardless
King Jamesth: so even if he went for it, we would just cancel eachother out
jordolloyd: yeah
jordolloyd: okay
jordolloyd: so 100 on the freezing thing
King Jamesth: yeah
King Jamesth: and then we just hope that the other people in the challenge don't use the same logic as us. But even if they did, if we changed the way we were thinking, we would lose anyways.
jordolloyd: yeah true
King Jamesth: Thanks Jordan! I know that this requires you to put trust in me, and I appreciate that you are willing to do that.
jordolloyd: tbh, i feel like im being stupid with all of this. and not because of you, but because jeff has lied to me so many times, that i just dont expect anything other than the same treatment ive been getting from him recently. oh well.
King Jamesth: Well I appreciate that you are still willing to go through with it. I have talked to him for a fair while about this plan, and I really think that he is willing to go through with it.
King Jamesth: I know that he is very erratic with a lot of people, but he hasn't really lied to me personally very much
jordolloyd: because lying to you hasnt benefitted him yet
King Jamesth: well there have been a few times when he has pulled through for me on a few occasions.
King Jamesth: I dont see what would be different about this one
King Jamesth: like I understand the fight you guys had, because I can see both your perspectives
jordolloyd: anyways, i dont know. but he had me "help" him with the veto so he could "use it on me" and then used it on you, lol. it all worked out, but that was a very dirty thing to do.
King Jamesth: well tbh, Jeff and I worked together intensely on that veto.
King Jamesth: like I know you were left on the block, but I was going if I stayed on the block
King Jamesth: but we did kinda work our ass off to get you safe
jordolloyd: he could have told me that
jordolloyd: i wouldnt have been pissed
King Jamesth: well it was a touchy situation
jordolloyd: but he went about it in such a sneaky way
King Jamesth: well, I personally think it is a harsh way to view it, because to be honest I dont think there were a ton of options that week
King Jamesth: with Renny in power, she wanted me gone
King Jamesth: but more than that she wanted Jeff gone
King Jamesth: like if you want I will explain what happened that week from my perspective
King Jamesth: because I see why you would not be happy about how things went down
King Jamesth: but I also think there were a lot of undercurrents that caused it to be that way
jordolloyd: yeah, but he still asked me to help him so he can use the veto on ME. im not talking about how he saved u and then u guys flipped things around and stuff and how it all worked out. the point is, he had the NERVE to ask me to help him when the entire time, he was planning on using it on you. he should have just either not asked for my help or once he knew i had already sent mine in, just tell me the truth. i dont see why that was so hard to do.
King Jamesth: ok sorry I didnt realize that
jordolloyd: i know u dont know me very well, obviously, but i dont get angry. i realllly dont, i just dont understand or even comprehend something like that. its hard for me to because i personally could never do that. i just cant.
King Jamesth: yeah I know what you mean. Thats not the way that I like to play either.
King Jamesth: I mean, I don't take these games personally, so I will make moves and stuff. But I don't like being like, meanspirited ya know?
jordolloyd: yea exactly. i am the first to say that i know theyre just games, but there are things i just would never do
King Jamesth: ok, so I am going to bed soon, but I promised Lydia that I would send her a PM after I talked to you. So I am good to say that this plan is in motion?
jordolloyd: yeah
King Jamesth: alright cool, then I will talk to you tomorrow
King Jamesth: nighty night
jordolloyd: alright gnight!!

Throwing Renny off the trail?

srobertw31: You on?
Auto-response: King Jamesth is not available (1:01:17 AM)
I am away from my computer right now.
King Jamesth: hey
King Jamesth: yeah I am on
srobertw31: How's it going?
King Jamesth: its going pretty well
King Jamesth: how about you?
srobertw31: just dandy
srobertw31: I was talking to jeff trying to get this veto figured out
srobertw31: he wanted to bid on the silver veto, I was going to bid on the mystery prize
King Jamesth: well, I think it is still up for grabs
King Jamesth: but not if you use a bid of 100
King Jamesth: I am kinda annoyed about that *eyeroll*
srobertw31: lol who has bid on it, do you know?
King Jamesth: well I bid on it, but I have since found out that I am not the only person that bid 100 on it. So it basically means the veto is useless
King Jamesth: for me
srobertw31: do you know if anyone bid 99?
King Jamesth: no I dont
King Jamesth: I havent heard of anyone doing that yet though
srobertw31: kk
King Jamesth: ok I am going to bed now. Night
srobertw31: night Roddy